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- From: m.melton@uea.ac.uk (Mark Melton)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- Subject: Re: Motorola pricelist (was RE: CPU MHz in A1200+)
- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 20:18:10 GMT
- Organization: University of East Anglia
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- wfblan@netcom.com (Wells Fargo Bank) wrote
- >IO92257@MAINE.MAINE.EDU wrote:
- >I was uplifted by the rumors a while back of two different companies (one
- >unfortunetly famous for vapour-ware) developing Multi-CPU boards for Amigas.
-
- >This IS the way for the future. And if for no other reason, to give our
- >old CPUs a home as a Co-Processor of sorts.
-
- >I love my CSA Derringer accelerator board because it goes half-way to this
- >by at least making my older 68000 CPU available for compatbility reasons.
- >True, it can't be accesses as a Co-processor or Parallell Processor while
- >the 68030 is being used, but I have the use of my old CPU still. The next
- >step would be to make the CPU useable WHILE the 68030 is being used, in
- >whatever manner it can be used.
-
- >As you say, "I'm sorry, but this cannot be that hard to do."!!
-
- >Other than Dave Haynie (I believe it was) saying this was next to impossible,
- >I have heard no other argument against its viability. And for some reason I
- >feel that Dave (it it was even him) may have misunderstood, or something.
- >I think he was saying that a TOTAL re-work of the Amiga-OS, etc would have to
- >be done to have a Multi-CPU Mother Board, etc, which is years away, if at all.
- >But I, and the previous person, are refering to add-on cards that could have
- >the necessary logic onboard to work with the OS as it currently stands. For
- >the 2nd CPU to be transparent to the Amigas OS. It can be done.
-
- >How about it developers. Who will be the first?
-
- > Rob Bamford
- > (wfblan@netcom.com)
-
- Hmm I`m afraid that I agree with Dave on this one. I`m just finishing
- a course on advanced computer architecture, the exam is on Monday!!!
-
- Multi-processor systems are indeed the future, but unfortunatly not
- that easy to make.
-
- Picture this, you have your normal Amiga, e.g. one processor, fast
- mem, graphics chips etc. You then go and strap in another processor.
- Firstly how do you connect it? In the same way as the other one? Ok
- then, so they both are now connected to the same memory and address
- busses. Hmm they are now going to have to share the busses so they
- can each have half the bandwidth, Ok not so bad just give each of
- them large second level caches.
- Right, now what do we have, hmm a problem, when one procesor writes to
- a cache, the value in memory remains the same, now if we have one
- processor it can deal with this, with two things become rather more
- complex. Cos what happens when the other reads this value, all it
- finds is the out of date copy. I could go into the details of this
- but unfortunatly it would take rather a long time and a lot of
- bandwidth.
-
- So ok next problem, software. What do we do, run one program on each
- processor??? Ok then here we go, how do we decide which process goes
- on which processor, hmmm we need some pretty fancy scheduling system.
- In other words a complete re-write of the exec.
-
- Multi processing might arrive on the amiga but dont hold your breath.
- It is a long way, read 2-3 years, probably more, remember Be-Box has
- been in development for 4/5 years now!!
-
- It might sound like a good Idea, but so does running cars on water.
-
- Mark
- M.Melton@uea.ac.uk
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